For the record…I normally don’t like to waste my time on these types of ‘lists’ from magazines, especially the ones from the tabloids where they clearly state that their lists are ‘pure speculation’ on their part. So why did I bother with this Mingpao one? Well, because I’m a long time reader of the magazine plus they’re usually more reputable than the other entertainment news and media sources out there (the key word here is “usually”). Of course, just like with any other entertainment newsmagazine in HK, Mingpao does go the ‘tabloid’ route occasionally, plus there have been plenty of ‘inaccuracies’ that I’ve found with their articles over the years (especially with regard to dates and such) – however its track record over the decades has been decent and there have truly been some great articles that Mingpao has published throughout that time (I especially like their interviews).
With all that said however, I have to admit that I still have my doubts about Mingpao’s list and I question whether it’s truly the ‘confirmed’ version from TVB, as there are just way too many ‘oddball’ nominations and snubs in the published lists to be believable. I listed a few of the obvious ‘oddities’ below (the ones that stuck out like a sore thumb to me), but of course, there were probably more that I didn’t even consider.
After looking at Mingpao’s ‘finalists’ lists, here’s my ‘two cents’:
In the Best Actor category….
.—Kevin Cheng got nominated for Gloves Come Off instead of Ghetto Justice 2? Hmmm, that’s an interesting choice, especially given the fact that Kevin won last year for his ‘breakthrough’ role as ‘L.A. Law’ from the first Ghetto Justice installment. Well, he’s definitely not going to win anyway cuz neither performance was much of a breakthrough, so I guess it doesn’t really matter which series he is nominated for.
.—I’m thrilled to see Raymond Wong get a nomination for Best Actor (as he’s become one of my favorite actors in the past few years), however WHY is he nominated for Gloves Come Off rather than Bottled Passion? Especially since his co-star Niki Chow was nominated in the Best Actress category for BP? Besides, if I recall correctly, Raymond wasn’t even considered ‘lead’ in GCO – the male lead in that series was Kevin Cheng – plus his role in that series was nowhere near as good as his role in BP (in which the storyline revolved mainly around him and Niki, so he was ‘truly’ the male lead in that series). Hmmm….this makes me think that TVB just put Raymond in this category as a ‘filler’ to prove a point (the whole thing about the biological children vs non biological children) – I highly doubt that TVB is anywhere near ‘sincere’ about giving Raymond a fair chance to win…otherwise, they would have nominated him in BP rather than GCO.
.—I was actually a little surprised to see Roger Kwok in the top ten for this category, since there didn’t seem to be much hype about his role or his series (plus the ratings weren’t that high). Not that I’m complaining though, since I love Roger and he’s always been one of my favorite actors since like back in the 80s – but it just didn’t really make sense to me. In any case, if it’s true that he got into top ten, then I’m truly very happy for him.
.—In terms of ‘snubs’ in this category, a few very obvious ones (in my opinion) were: Bowie Lam for When Heaven Burns (understandable of course, since he’s no longer with TVB), Kent Cheng for King Maker (this one I’m a bit surprised about cuz Kent was excellent in that series, plus he has a relatively good relationship with TVB), Michael Miu for either L’Escargot or Highs and Lows (also surprised with this one cuz Michael’s roles in both series were pretty well-received and his acting was quite praised).
In the Best Actress category…
.— The first thing I noticed (which I’m sure most others did as well) was Aimee Chan’s ‘undeserving’ nomination in this category. When I saw her name in this category, my first reaction was: WTH???? First of all, Aimee’s role in TLSA was pretty much ‘supporting’ – though I guess some people could argue that she was ‘second female lead’? Regardless, her acting is still not up to par yet and up to this point, she has never been one of those actresses that most of us would consider as ‘lead actress’ level. So how the heck did she secure a spot in this category? I say take her out and put one of the other truly ‘leading’ actresses in there!
.—Obvious snubs: Sonjia Kwok for L’Escargot (her character and performance was pretty much the only one I liked in that entire series), Gigi Wong for Divas in Distress (Liza Wang got nominated, yet Gigi didn’t? Hmmm….I wonder if this has anything to do with the comments that Gigi made earlier about TVB not respecting its veteran artists…), Maggie Cheung for The Last Steep Ascent (again understandable because she already signed with CTI), and Jessica Hsuan for Tiger Cubs (since Joe got nominated in the Best Actor category, I would think that Jessica would have gotten nominated too?).
In the Favorite Male / Female Character categories…
.—Once again, good to see Raymond Wong nominated in this category, but again, he’s nominated for the wrong series (um, did the TVB people who put together this list forget about Bottled Passion completely or what?).
.—Surprised to see Bobby nominated in this category. I obviously didn’t think House of Harmony and Vengeance was worth watching (and apparently quite a few others thought the same thing) and I don’t recall hearing any ‘hype’ over his character or the series itself, so not sure what this nomination is about. For the record, Bobby is another actor whom I love a lot, so it’s not that I have a problem with him being nominated – it’s just that the nomination doesn’t make sense to me (just like Roger’s nomination in the Best Actor category didn’t make sense to me).
.—Where are Ben Wong and MC Jin? Both of their characters were quite well-received in Highs and Lows, plus they were ‘critical’ to making that series close to ‘watchable’ for many of us, so it’s weird that they weren’t nominated. Perhaps TVB used up all their HAL ‘quota’ for Raymond Lam and Michael Miu?
.—Another ‘surprise’ was not seeing anyone from Daddy Good Deeds nominated in either the Male or Female Character categories. That series was one of the better ones from this year and given how popular Edwin Siu’s character ‘Ah Yap’ was, I thought for sure he would at least get a nomination in the Male Character category? Guess not…
.—Most obvious snub in the Favorite Female Character category: Linda Chung for Witness Insecurity! This one was definitely a shocker for me because her character Hailey in the series was very very well-received – in fact, I actually liked Linda’s character in the series more than I liked her acting itself. Not sure what TVB was thinking with this category…weird!
.—Oh, and the 20 million dollar question: why was ‘So Gay’ (aka Koo Ming Wah) not nominated in the Favorite Male Character category? I would think that he’d be a ‘shoo-in’ for this category given the popularity of the character and the role, no? I mean, come on – how many people out there nowadays don’t know who ‘So Gay’ is???
In the Best Supporting Actor category…
.— Did I read the list wrong or was Ben Wong truly not nominated in this category for his awesome performance in Highs and Lows? Wow, someone must not have their head screwed on right because Ben was one of the ‘hot favorites’ for the BSA award after HAL aired, plus he’s last year’s BSA winner, so he has some ‘status’ with that, yet not even a single nomination? Huh?
.— Other obvious snubs in this category: Pierre Ngo for King Maker (he was great in that series and was truly one of the ‘highlights’ that made that series worth watching – in fact, I had thought he would be nominated for sure since he was among the ‘favorites’ for this category in the various Media outlets for his performance), Raymond Cho for either Bottled Passion or The Confidant (he was awesome in both, so I would have been ok with a nomination for either one – poor guy…he never gets nominated for anything it seems….argh!).
.—Glad to see Ram Tseung nominated for Witness Insecurity! Loved him in that series, plus he’s a hugely underrated actor who is usually ‘neglected’ by TVB when it comes to awards (not to mention he’s one of my favorite actors), so definitely thrilled to see him nominated (though of course I know that he won’t win, but hey, I can still enjoy the ‘nomination’ moment! LOL!).
.—I can’t help but wonder why Jazz Lam is in this category when his role in Ghetto Justice 2 really wasn’t all that outstanding (but then again, nothing about the series was ‘outstanding’ in my opinion…the series definitely didn’t live up to the ‘hype’ of the first one!). Maybe Sam Lee would have been nominated in this category instead of Jazz if he hadn’t already joined CTI?
.—An actor whom I feel has been hugely ‘neglected’ by TVB is Lee Sing Cheong – he was excellent in Divas in Distress (as well as all the other roles he takes on) and can be considered one of the ‘driving forces’ in that series (I know I watched that series partly because of him)…but of course, no nomination as usual.
In the Best Supporting Actress category…
.—All I’m going to say is that I feel the nominations for Christine Kuo, Eliza Sam, and Aimee Chan in this category are a complete joke! I didn’t like any of their performances whatsoever and definitely don’t feel they deserve a spot in this category (just my personal opinion)!
.—As for ‘snubs’ in this category – well, for me, there were way too many to count (which is why it ticks me off even more that Christine, Eliza, and Aimee were nominated in this category when there were easily others who should have gotten a spot). A few ‘snubs’ that come to mind off the top of my head: Elaine Yiu, Claire Yiu, and Rebecca Chan for Bottled Passion, Selena Li for either Gloves Come Off or Wish and Switch, Mimi Chu for Divas in Distress, Gigi Wong for The Hippocratic Crush, Maggie Siu for When Heaven Burns or The Confidant , etc. etc.
.—On a positive note…glad to see Mary Hon nominated (though should have been for SSSS, not Three Kingdoms) as well as Florence Kwok and Helena Law, as these veterans usually don’t get much recognition. Of course their chances of winning are pretty much ‘nil’, but still very happy for them.
And last but not least, the Most Improved Male / Female Artist categories…
.—I don’t really care too much about the Most Improved Female Artist category, so no comment on the nominations there (though of course, the most obvious choice to win this award is Mandy Wong).
.—As for the Male Artist category….I actually really wanted to see Benjamin Yuen, Eric Li, and Ronald Law nominated as well because they put in good performances this year and really are deserving of some recognition this year. Anyone know why there are only top 5 for this category instead of top 10? If there was top 10, then I would want these 3 to be included for sure.
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FINAL THOUGHTS
Despite the mini ‘analysis’ that I just did, I feel I have to say this…. before any of us (myself included) get too overly “worked up” over this supposed list of ‘confirmed’ finalists, my advice is to wait for the ‘official’ nominations lists from TVB (which are supposed to be revealed on November 21st) and compare to see if Mingpao’s version holds any water. If the lists end up being exactly the same (which I highly doubt), then we can ‘officially’ leash out our discontent at TVB’s ‘stupidity’ – otherwise, we might just end up getting ourselves all flustered for nothing!
TVB Anniversary Awards: Top 10 nominees
for TV King and Queen revealed; “When Heaven Burns” in contention for Best
Series
Source: Mingpao Weekly, Issue 2297
This year, TVB will be utilizing a ‘One Vote Per
Person’ method to select the winners for the TV King and Queen (aka Best Actor
/ Actress) as well as Best Series awards -- however, in order for the audiences
to choose the winners, first there has to be a list of nominees to pick from.
Earlier there were reports that the highly
acclaimed but low rated series When Heaven Burns《天與地》 , which received overwhelming support from netizens and has been
dubbed as a ‘godly’ series, would not get any nominations at this year’s awards
ceremony. It was rumored that due to
both the series’ producer Jonathan Chik (戚其義) as well as
scriptwriter Chow Yuk Ming (周旭明) leaving TVB, plus main female lead Charmaine
Sheh (佘詩曼) is no longer TVB’s ‘biological daughter’ [TN: she currently only has a per series contract
with TVB], the series would not even get the chance to compete at all.
However, according to exclusive inside
information received by our magazine [Mingpao], TVB executive personnel have
already met several times to decide on the nominees and the ‘Top Ten’ in both
the TV King / Queen as well as the other major categories have already been
confirmed. Reportedly, the series When
Heaven Burns has successfully garnered nominations in several
categories, including a coveted spot atop the list for Best Series as well as a
nomination for Charmaine Sheh in the TV Queen (Best Actress) category. As for the series’ male lead Moses Chan (陳豪), he will actually be contending for the TV King (Best Actor) and
Favorite Male Character awards with his performance in the more recently aired
series The Last Steep Ascent《天梯》instead.
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TVB’s Anniversary Awards ceremony will be held on
December 17th this year – with less than a month to go, TVB will be
holding a press conference next Wednesday (November 21st) to
announce the official nominees for each of the major award categories. It is reported that after several days of
meetings and discussions, the nominations lists have finally been
confirmed. This will be the first
awards ceremony that TVB’s new director of production for non-drama programs
Sandy Yu (余詠珊) will completely oversee with full support from TVB’s new boss
Charles Chan (陳國強) – after learning a lesson with the voting
fiasco during this year’s Miss Hong Kong pageant, TVB will once again attempt
to use the ‘One Vote Per Person’ method in its upcoming Anniversary Awards show
by having 100% audience votes determine the winners in 3 of the major award
categories.
Since TVB is going the ‘100% audience vote’
route, of course that means public opinion will need to take priority –
therefore, in order to emphasize that the process will be fair and just, quite
a few ‘non-biological’ sons and daughters were allowed to make it into Top
Ten. On the TV King side, the Top Ten
nominees include Joe Ma (馬德鐘), who had ended his management contract with TVB
in the earlier part of the year and so is no longer a ‘biological’ son– he is
nominated for his role in this year’s popular and highly acclaimed hit series Tiger
Cubs《飛虎》. In addition, ‘non-biological’
son Raymond Wong (黃浩然) also received a nomination in the TV King
category. Towards his nomination for TV
King, Joe Ma expressed that he is pleasantly surprised: “If I did make it into Top Ten, that’s
great. Prior to this, I didn’t think I’d
make it this far, so no matter win or lose, I’m already very happy.”
As for this year’s top 5 ‘hot favorites’ for TV
King – Wayne Lai (黎耀祥), Moses Chan (陳豪), Kevin Cheng (鄭嘉穎), Raymond Lam (林峯), and Kenneth Ma (馬國明) – all of them
made it onto the list. Amongst them,
Moses Chan had the most series aired this year (4 series total), however
instead of being nominated for the popular When Heaven Burns, he will be
competing instead based on his performance in The Last Steep Ascent. Towards this, Moses expressed: “It really doesn’t matter to me which series
I get nominated for – just being able to participate and enjoy the process is
enough. If you ask me, it’s actually
quite difficult for me to tell you which series I liked best, as each one gave
me a different feeling.”
Public opinion is one thing – when it comes to
the artists who already ‘jumped ship’ to rival TV stations, TVB is not making
any exceptions. For example, due to The
Last Steep Ascent’s female lead Maggie Cheung (張可頤) currently working for rival station CTI, she has no chance of
getting nominated at all – instead, her ‘first female lead’ status in TLSA has
been replaced by the series’ second female lead Aimee Chan (陳茵媺), who will be competing in the TV Queen category this year with her
performance in that series. To round
out the TV Queen category, even ‘non-biological’ daughter Niki Chow (周麗淇) was nominated for her performance in the series Bottled Passion《我的如意狼君》, which had aired over a year ago.
Looks like this year, audiences can’t say that TVB is ‘favoring’ their
biological children again!
Asked about this year’s nominations list
including so many ‘non-biological’ children as well as the largely ‘neglected’
series When Heaven Burns, TVB’s variety program director Sandy Yu
responded: “When Heaven Burns will
get nominated for sure! The reason for
doing the ‘One Vote Per Person’ thing this year is because we don’t want to
give people the feeling that this is just another closed door ‘inner circle
election’. In my eyes, there is no such
thing as biological versus non-biological – we tried to put together the
nominations from the audience’s perspective and our goal is to have at least
2.5 million people vote.”
With that said though, only the TV King, TV
Queen, and Best Series categories will be 100% audience vote – the winners in
the rest of the categories will be determined via a ‘judging panel’ consisting
of TVB internal staff as well as TVB’s top 9 management executives. With this setup, isn’t there still a
possibility that ‘favoritism’ by management could still exist? Sandy Yu responds: “We decided this way because we wanted to
simplify the voting process. If our goal
is to have all audiences vote, it’s impossible to have all the awards done this
way because if you think about it, there are more than a dozen awards – not
everyone is going to have the patience to sit there and vote on every single
award, so what happens in the situations where audiences only vote for half the
categories? Do we consider all those
votes null and void? After considering
all the ‘technical’ issues that could arise, that’s the decision we came up
with.”
As for the voting by the ‘top 9 management
executives’, Sandy Yu expressed: “This
year, we pulled Mark Lee (李寶安) [TVB’s General Manager] in as well, so there
are 9 executives total. Our plan for
now is to have management vote count 50%
-- the remaining 50% will consist of votes from TVB’s 3000 employees, so
the results will be quite fair.” In
terms of the rumored ‘confirmed’ nominations list for Favorite Female
Character, Tavia Yeung (楊怡) supposedly has 2 nominations – towards this,
Sandy Yu explained: “For the TV King and
TV Queen categories, artists are only allowed to be nominated for 1 series –
this is because we don’t want to skew the votes; however, in the ‘Favorite
Character’ categories, there is a possibility of having more than 1
nomination. As for the details of this
year’s nominations list, I don’t quite remember.”
‘Most Improved’ award becomes a ‘battle’ between the 2 parties
Since the winners for the rest of the awards will
be determined by the 9 TVB executives and 3000 TVB staff, the ‘fight’ for these
awards has seemingly come down to a ‘battle’ between TVB’s top 2 drama
production heads Catherine Tsang (曾勵珍) and Tommy Leung (梁家樹). Take the ‘Most Improved Male
Artist’ category for example – both Catherine’s favorite Edwin Siu (蕭正楠) as well as Tommy’s favorite Oscar Leung (梁烈唯) are most definitely in the top 5 – there’s no way of knowing what
will happen until the very end. On the
‘Most Improved Female Artist’ side, Mandy Wong (黃智雯) initially had the
best chance of winning with her breakthrough role as ‘Kwan Yee So’ in the
series L’Escargot《缺宅男女》which was aired earlier in the year, however the sudden popularity of ‘goddesses’
Eliza Sam (岑麗香) and Christine Kuo (苟芸慧) in the latter
part of the year could change things significantly. The popularity of newbie Eliza Sam especially
shouldn’t be taken for granted, as it is obvious from this year’s nominations
lists alone that she is one of the actresses being heavily promoted by TVB --
Eliza has been nominated in 3 categories this year, including ‘Most Improved
Female Artist’, ‘Best Supporting Actress’ and ‘Favorite Female Character’. Interestingly, one of Eliza’s co-star from
the series Divas in Distress 《巴不得媽媽》—veteran actress
Gigi Wong (黃淑儀) – was not nominated in any category, even though she is highly
praised by the public for her strong acting skills.
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Nominations Lists [TN: Note that this is Mingpao’s supposed
‘confirmed’ version – we will need to wait and see if this truly matches TVB’s
‘official’ lists that will be revealed on November 21st]:
Best Actor (aka TV King)
Wayne Lai -- The Confidant
Moses Chan – The Last Steep Ascent
Kevin Cheng – Gloves Come Off
Kenneth Ma – The Hippocratic Crush
Raymond Lam – Highs and Lows
Bosco Wong – Witness Insecurity
Damian Lau – Silver Spoons, Sterling Shackles
Roger Kwok – Queen of Diamonds and Hearts
Joe Ma – Tiger Cubs
Raymond Wong – Gloves Come Off
Best Actress (aka TV Queen)
Michelle Yim – The Confidant
Charmaine Sheh – When Heaven Burns
Myolie Wu – Ghetto Justice 2
Tavia Yeung -- Silver Spoons, Sterling Shackles
Fala Chen -- Queen of Diamonds and Hearts
Linda Chung – Witness Insecurity
Kate Tsui – Highs and Lows
Aimee Chan – The Last Steep Ascent
Liza Wang – Divas in Distress
Niki Chow – Bottled Passion
Favorite Male Character
Kevin Cheng -- Ghetto Justice 2
Moses Chan – The Last Steep Ascent
Wayne Lai -- The Confidant
Raymond Lam – Highs and Lows
Kenneth Ma – The Hippocratic Crush
Bosco Wong – Witness Insecurity
Bobby Au Yeung – House of Harmony and Vengeance
Michael Miu -- Highs and Lows
Raymond Wong -- The Confidant
Damian Lau – Silver Spoons, Sterling Shackles
Favorite Female Character
Michelle Yim – The Confidant
Charmaine Sheh – When Heaven Burns
Myolie Wu – Ghetto Justice 2
Kristal Tin – King Maker
Tavia Yeung -- Silver Spoons, Sterling Shackles
Tavia Yeung -- The Hippocratic Crush
Kate Tsui – Highs and Lows
Fala Chen -- Queen of Diamonds and Hearts
Eliza Sam – Divas in Distress
Niki Chow – Bottled Passion
Best Supporting Actor
Power Chan -- The Confidant
Koo Ming Wah -- Divas in Distress
Oscar Leung – L’Escargot
Elliot Ngok -- The Confidant
Vincent Wong -- Silver Spoons, Sterling Shackles
Jazz Lam -- Ghetto Justice 2
Kenny Wong -- The Last Steep Ascent
Ram Tseung -- Witness Insecurity
Him Law -- The Hippocratic Crush
Edwin Siu – Daddy Good Deeds
Best Supporting Actress
Mandy Wong -- L’Escargot
Rachel Kan – Master of Play
Mary Hon – Three Kingdoms RPG
Florence Kwok -- King Maker
Helena Law -- The Last Steep Ascent
Christine Kuo -- Ghetto Justice 2
Nancy Wu -- Gloves Come Off
Elena Kong -- Silver Spoons, Sterling Shackles
Eliza Sam -- Divas in Distress
Aimee Chan -- The Confidant
Most Improved Male Artist
King Kong
Him Law
Edwin Siu
Oscar Leung
Vincent Wong
Most Improved Female Artist
Mandy Wong
Eliza Sam
Christine Kuo
Katy Kung
Cilla Lok
Truly what WTH nomination list. Generally in accord with your pov.
ReplyDeleteThe nominations for Christine Kuo, Eliza Sam, and Aimee Chan are a complete joke. Aimee as the 1st female lead? Eliza Sam with 3 nominations? She shouldn't even be considered for most improved since DIVA is only her 2nd series. And Christine Kuo, considering how bad her acting and Cantonese, should not have been nominated for any category at all. Her character in The Tiger Cubs is the fly in the ointment in an otherwise very enjoyable series.
And Elaine Yiu not nominated at all for her awesome performance in Bottled Passion? Selena Li also did well in The Confidante. And yes if Liza was nominated so should Gigi.
"Jessica Hsuan for Tiger Cubs (since Joe got nominated in the Best Actor category, I would think that Jessica would have gotten nominated too?)."
JH not nominated for best actress but Joe is, is so typical of TVB's pettiness and politics. In 2008, when Steven Ma's tvb contract renewal negotiation stalled, he was not nominated for either best actor or most favorite actor in AJCL though Linda Chung was not only nominated but got into top 5 for best actress in AJCL, and also top 5 for most favorite character in Legend of the Demi-gods, the latter only a half-hour sitcom at that. Now, that's a in your face snub.
"Another ‘surprise’ was not seeing anyone from Daddy Good Deeds nominated in either the Male or Female Character categories. That series was one of the better ones from this year [..]"
And get this despite being aired during the golden holiday week (Ching Ming Festival & Easter back-to-back prolonged public hols) DGD ranks 4th in rating up till nov 4th. http://tieba.baidu.com/p/1981769393
@Tamaya: Yup...WTH indeed (actually more like WTF but I figured I'd keep things 'polite'...LOL)!
DeleteAimee, Christine, and Eliza are pretty much being promoted because of their looks rather than skills (since they don't have any) and if TVB wants to go that route, then fine -- let's see what happens a few years down the road when those 3 are no longer a 'novelty' and audiences get tired of them....TVB will drop them faster than anything!
Thanks for bringing up the piece about Steven. It's so obvious looking through the lists that TVB's politics were at play again (though of course I'm not surprised in the least)...I just feel sorry for the artists who end up becoming the 'victims' of TVB's stupid antics...
Yup, I was truly very surprised that DGD only garnered 1 nomination (for Edwin Siu in BSA), despite its #4 ranking on the ratings charts...though I guess part of me sort of did expect that already, since both Steven and Ha Yu already left TVB...but still, it's annoying to see, especially when they [TVB] make it so obvious that they aren't going to include certain artists...
Christine and Eliza honestly are popular among HK netizens and avid TVB watchers. They have this nickname called "Otaku Goddess" and are adored in HK's biggest internet forum - HK Golden. I guess TVB is taking advantage of their popularity as "idols" or "goddesses" to milk and promote them further, while they are hot.
DeleteAimee makes quite a name for herself since she got embroiled with Moses Chan who is dubbed as HK's golden bachelor alive.
I do think it's a stretch to nominate them all in those categories. Whatever, since the TVB award ceremony is always a joke to me anyway :D
Delete@zzxyz: "Christine and Eliza honestly are popular among HK netizens and avid TVB watchers."
DeleteSometimes the so-called popularity, or vice-versa, bashing, of certain artists is all hyped up either by the press on its own to sell news, or publicized on behest of TVB for publicity.
From my past numerous browsing of HK forums, I've seen long, I mean around the block long, threads of accolades or criticisms on certain artists being totally ignored by tabloids, conversely, comments (praises or bashing)from a small group of netizens (sometimes even just one person's opinion) are being publicized as the general public consensus.
With press help and tvb in your face promotions the goddesses will only get more 'popular' in time.
@zzxyz / tamaya: Well, as far as I'm concerned, I don't care how "popular" Christine and Eliza are on the forums, that still doesn't make them anywhere near 'decent' actresses and they still don't deserve as many spots in the nominations list as they got. And since the popularity of both is due primarily to their looks / bodies (and maybe their personalities to some extent), that's even less 'respectability' in my book...
DeleteSo basically TVB can try to push these 2 so-called "goddesses" into our faces as much as they want -- whether we choose to 'accept' them is another story.
And yes, I definitely agree that a small group of netizens' opinions do not necessarily represent that of the masses or general public -- most of the time, it's the Media that blows these netizens' comments / sentiments out of proportion....though unfortunately, there's no way around this, since that's the nature of how the entertainment industry works....
@zzxyx: LOL....I share your sentiment as well....the Anniversary Awards are pretty much a joke to me too, especially with how ridiculous some of the awards have gotten over the past couple years. But it's still 'fun' to have these discussions and 'mock' the expected stupidity of TVB's management (for me at least)...haha...
Deletehmm is it just me or is My Favorite male and female characters always dedicated to male and female leading actors! I mean seriously if that's the case they should called it most favorite male and female leading characters then!
ReplyDeleteMy favorite male character should include all types of actors includes supporting! But knowing TVB pssh not going to happen right? =/ Not really interested in this year's award show, no one I like will win anything. Maybe So Gay, Koo Min Wah will win best supporting that's it.
@sport3888: Yea, it does seem like those 2 categories favor lead actresses and actors, though technically it's not supposed to be that way. I actually prefer the way these 2 categories were set up years ago (up until 2003 or 2004, when TVB changed it)....in the past, the "Favorite Characters" category was one big category (consisting of male and female artists) and there were anywhere from 10 to 15 winners in the category, which to me made a lot more sense given the number of series TVB airs each year (usually 25 to 26 series) and the number of 'likable' characters that could potentially come out of those series....not only did it make more sense the old way, it was also more fair....
DeleteYea TVB totally doesn't want Raymond Wong to win the male lead actors award because they nominated him for a dis-likable performance in Gloves Come Off, rather than the highly popular Bottled Passion! *rolls eyes. Oh well hopefully the official list will be different! Seriously if I had to choose best actor for this year I'd choose Raymond Wong!
ReplyDelete@sport3888: LOL...yup...pretty much 9 out of 10 comments that I've read said the exact same thing (that RW should have been nominated for BP instead of GCO). That's why it's hard to believe that TVB doesn't understand how stupid it is to nominate him for in those categories for the wrong series....either whoever put together this list is completely clueless as to what is going on and can't tell the different between lead and supporting (which is highly possible) or, like I mentioned in my post, TVB's stupid politics are at play again and they nominated RW in the wrong series on purpose....
DeleteAnyway, whatever the case, he's definitely one of my choices for TV King this year, along with Kenneth Ma and Kent Cheng (all performances that I felt were excellent this year and totally deserving of recognition). Whatever the case, I'm pretty sure none of them are going to win anything, so I guess it doesn't really matter....
Legend of the Demi-gods wasn't a half hour sitcom it was the series with Linda, Sunny, and Benny Chan. Actually it was the series where Helena Tam had a break through role as the antagonist.
ReplyDeleteYea TVB tends to ignore certain people that's for sure. And it surprises me still that Steven's willing to resign with them! Seriously after how mistreated he is? I'd try my chances over at CTI with higher quality filming and refreshing storylines!
Should have said "Demi-gods" (搜神传) was a series (not sitcom) aired in a half-hour 8:00 pm timeslot. Dismal ratings, bad reviews but LC's Demi character still in top 5 favorite character? Why? Cos' the series was LC's first female leading role, that's why. Just like Aimee and other new goddesses now, LC was heavily promoted then despite weak acting skill. Then she was bashed mercilessly on baidu tvb but look at her now. So what was I trying to say? Just this: That's TVB for you! But undoubtedly this year TVB has managed to stretch its audiences' incredulity with its one person one vote gimmick! I for one am looking forward to the unfolding drama.
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I'm right now watching "Looking back in anger" (for the first time now at epi 16) and what a marvelous series it is so far. So incredibly riveting and heartrending. Didn't know the series was such a tear-jerker. Have always loved Felix as an actor, love him even more since watching this series.
And guess what, there is truly such a 'dumb-ass' (on-goi) Mr. Nice Guy with misplaced loyalty like Ding Yau Kin towards his younger brother. Steven Ma is one such person (totally on-goi) with a misplaced loyalty towards that Totally very bad TVB.
In his own words: "To present, the one reproof I have heard the most from my friends would be: “What’s the matter with you? He/she treats you like this, and you still let it go?” 有沒有搞錯﹖ 人家都這樣對你﹐你還能就此作罷?"
As to renew, resign contract:
In 2009 Steven had already decided to leave TVB but for Mr. Stephen Chan's promise to him. That Chan was unable to fulfill his promise is just Steven's own bad luck. (hak zai) But if you were referring to future per series collaboration with TVB, Steven has always asserted that he had no damaging discords with TVB only with TVB artistes management head, Ms. Lok. Right or wrong, (imo he has already paid in full his debt and more to Catherine Tsang and TVB) Steven cannot get past his own conscience to work with TVB's major rival, CTI. Honestly, I can't understand his stance nor do I approve of it.
But looks like SM may collaborate with Miu Siu Ching early next year.
@tamaya: Yes, that's definitely one of the traits about Steven that I admire, but at the same time also find frustrating...I mean, yes, there are certain situations where it's better to 'take the high road', but there are other situations where it might not be wise to do so. To be honest, sometimes there are moments when I do wish that Steven would be a little more 'selfish' and think of himself more than others...not that I"m 'complaining' about that per say, it's just that I sometimes i feel frustrated for him....
DeleteAnd totally agree with your comparison of Felix's character in LBIA to Steven, especially when it comes to his 'loyalty' toward TVB. (Btw, as a side note, I saw your comment in the other thread about LBIA and will respond to it when I get a chance).